Iggy is not the best economic guide for Canada…no way–
March 30, 2009
Conservative Reporter
The latest poll shouts out at us that according to whomever did this…that Iggy and the liberals are the best economic guides for Canada. Polls ask you to choose one or two answers…your first and second choice….they also only contact about a thousand people…and this is supposed to be an accurate representative of what Canadians feel? I think not.
I do not believe for one minute that this person, newly back into our country and learning his job could possibly have his finger on the right pulse.
The people around him are doing public relations exercises. Calling everyone they can think of and spewing out the message they think will sell him. They will say and do anything to get the Liberal ship back in power. His financial people have not had their heads and eyes on the real financial pulse for three years. They are projecting thoughts from the past. This is not very helpful. Mr. Ignatieff has not offered any solutions to Canada’s financial health. He has been more prominent in calling down anything the Conservative’s say or do. He shows no diplomatic skills that a Prime Minister would need.
Let me remind the Liberals. WE HAVE LONG MEMORIES.
The Liberal record is one of stealing from Peter to pay Paul. We are only just now in recovery mode from the whacking they did with the Department of Defense. There is still a lot more to be done in order for the Navy and Air Force and all defense areas to have their fair share of the money available in the future.
So, we have this person, who is learning his opposition leader job, now wanting us to believe that he can do the Prime Minister’s job too? It is too wide a stretch. Not only does he have to convince the homeland of his skills, he has not even begun to be known on the international stage.
Academic contacts do not cut it in the political arena.
THIS POLL MEANS NOTHING.
Our Prime Minister is out there and on the job making things happen.
He is the better choice by far, and the most experienced leader in North America.
Here is a sample of what others think about this poll–here is Bubba Brown:
How this “poll” shows that we are trembling in fear and hope that Mr. Ignatiff will “save us” I haven’t seen anything that he has done so far that fills me with “hope” or “Change” I have seen Mr Ignatiff make very short work of the last Liberal leader, change? I looked on in horror as did any thinking Canadian at the “coalition” ironic that the Liberals who always fancied themselves “the only ones who could save Canada from the Separatists would willingly join a cabal which put Gilles Duceppe in the “catbird seat” and Mr Layton in a cabinet seat? I am also sure Ms. May “weighed in ” somewhere before the demise of Mr. Dion and his “Green Shift”
As far as Mr.Ignatieff being a savvy economist, well it was the Liberals that gutted, take your pick, our armed services, our health care system, transfer payments that grossly favored Quebec,our infrastructure all across Canada, bled E.I. White, drained anything they could get their hands on and all the while got a pass from our M.S.M. for being “clever”.
Mr Ignatieff is just back from a meeting in Saanich with an “overflow” crowd of 300? Mr. Excitement he isn’t. I see all these “stories” as just pitiful attempts to position the Liberals as a government in waiting, I hope they are waiting a long time, the trip out to Saanich wasn’t a total loss as Mr. Ignatieff used the opportunity to purchase a cat, news story of the day, go figure. Perhaps there will be a picture in Times square of Mr. Ignatieff and MeMe, would that be a threeme?
And from Nicola Timmerman:
<blockquote I wonder what it must be like to think oneself entitled to be Prime Minister because one comes from an aristocratic line and because one has set foot in the country for a short while.
The West doesn’t trust this guy farther than they can throw him, despite his non-apology for unnamed mistakes the Liberals made in the past.
By the way is any reporter out there every going to cover the story of when Dion is going to pay back his debts?
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1.
wilson | March 30, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Beyond your own blind partisanship, what indicators are there that the polling information you dismiss is flawed. The current Leger poll mirrors what a Nanos poll found recently.
You may wish it was otherwise. That’s not reporting, it’s spin and very poor spin at that.
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C.C. | March 30, 2009 at 4:27 pm
that’s not the real Wilson….and I don’t believe the Liberal push polls for one minute. They’re meant to divert our attention from the financial questions that keep popping up re: the LPOC under Iggy. See Ardvark and Janke for the latest mishandled and odd money management of the LPOC.
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Conservative Reporter | March 30, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Ahhhhh MaryT – Wilson — the usurper….has come here in true colours…just as you warned…
Hail the pronouncements…. I want all to see it.
Sharon – I will contact you to give you information on this interloper.
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Conservative Reporter | March 30, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Yes C.C. you are right.
I am also going to post about Paul Szabo…you remember him
..the chairman of the hanging committee to get Brian Mulroney…under the guise
that Canadians want to know…..- he has filed a petition about income trusts..just his way of slagging the conservatives again I guess…
Now this is what the liberals are good at….slinging sand from their sandbox.
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Bubba Brown | March 30, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Good post! how this “poll” shows that we are trembling in fear and hope that Mr. Ignatiff will “save us” I haven’t seen anything that he has done so far that fills me with “hope” or “Change” I have seen Mr Ignatiff make very short work of the last Liberal leader, change? I looked on in horror as did any thinking Canadian at the “coalition” ironic that the Liberals who always fancied themselves “the only ones who could save Canada from the Separitistas would willingly join a cabal which put Gilles Doucette in the “catbird seat” and Mr Layton in a cabinet seat? I am also sure Ms. May “weighed in ” somwhere before the demise of Mr. Dion and his “Green Shift”
As far as Mr.Ignatiff being a savvy ecominist, well it was the Liberals that gutted, take your pick, our armed services, our health care system, transfer payments that grossley favored Quebec,our infrastructure all across Canada, bled E.I. White, drained anything they could get their hands on and all the while got a pass from our M.S.M. for being “clever”.
Mr Ignatiff is just back from a meeting in Sannich with an “overflow” crowd of 300? Mr. Excitment he isn’t. I see all these “storys” as just pitiful attempts to position the Liberals as a government in waiting, I hope they are waiting a long time, the trip out to Sannich wasen’t a total loss as Mr. Ignatiff used the opportunity to purchase a cat, news story of the day, go figure. Perhaps there will be a picture in Times square of Mr. Ignatiff and MeMe, would that be a threeme?
Cheer
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Nicola Timmerman | March 30, 2009 at 4:52 pm
I wonder what it must be like to think oneself entitled to be Prime Minister because one comes from an aristocratic line and because one has set foot in the country for a short while.
The West doesn’t trust this guy farther than they can throw him, despite his non-apology for unnamed mistakes the Liberals made in the past.
By the way is any reporter out there every going to cover the story of when Dion is going to pay back his debts?
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Eric | March 30, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Calm down. Don’t shoot the messenger/pollsters.
A poll during a severe recession shows that people have more faith in Ignatieff than Harper to run the economy. So? Are we really surprised?
The problem is that Ignatieff has not shown any plan for the economy whatsoever, so people can project onto him anything they want.
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Conservative Reporter | March 30, 2009 at 5:00 pm
I note that the interloper – or person wanting to use Wilson’s nickname is from the Liberal stronghold ( they think anyway ha !) of Toronto.
I will be passing this person’s information along….
How do you spell – B U S T E D !!!
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wilson | March 30, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Ignore the Twit.
Iffy is definitely disappointing the Lib grassroots. And a pushpoll won’t fix that.
Canadian voters won’t be asked to choose between Iffy and PMSH,
the choice will be Lizzy May (maybe), Jack Layton (maybe), Gilles Duceppe, Iffy and PMHarper.
Besides, I thought Canadians don’t elect a Prime Minister!
Isn’t that what the coalition of losers based their attempted seizure of goverment on…?
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Conservative Reporter | March 30, 2009 at 5:01 pm
The pollsters and media came at breakneck speed Eric to make sure we knew…all of us Canadians…
We are calm. We know who the best man is.
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Ted | March 30, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Bubba:
It is not the poll that shows you are trembling in fear. It is your and the others reaction to the poll.
You can always tell if someone is overly sensitive to a poll by the way they respond with nasty attacks on the person leading the polls. And the reaction to the many polls coming out now showing Harper hurting where he needs to be winning – i.e. where he needed to grow and where there are more seats – and losing on the key leadership assessments… wow, this obviously have hit a raw nerve judging from the reaction here!
That’s even better news than the poll itself.
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Bubba Brown | March 30, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Aah I was being “sarcastic” Ted or Gayle. If you-all weren’t desperate you would not be trolling Conservative Blogs not likely you would get anyone here to drink the Liberal cool-aid. Poll that.
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Conservative Reporter | March 30, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Ahhh Bubba has Ted ( or Gail ) in hand…heheheheh
I must say we are attracting trolls today…. oh my !!!!
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wilson | March 30, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Busted? Why would you wish to bust ol’ wilson?
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Fay | March 30, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Keep up the good work Conservative Reporter!! The trolls are looking and sounding less significant every day.
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Jen | March 30, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Hi CR, DID I hear that the great O is close to spending 10trillion dollars and the media here want the prime minister to desperately follow in OBAMA’S footsteps.
IRAQ has a new democracy- thanks to the people the iraqi and american soldiers and thanks to George W. Bush.
Now that Iraq is in Democracy, OBAMA wants to accomplish the same goal as Bush did towards Iraq. How come no one has called OBAMA, BUSH-LIKE.
Also OBAMA has his own special media so can the prime minister-right.
The liberals have their mushy brain MSM; whereas the conservatives have the american intellects as well as international.
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wilson | March 30, 2009 at 7:34 pm
‘Harper hurting where he needs to be winning’
Well, spin a tie then Ted, the same tie in voter intentions that has been there for…until an election is called.
PMSH popularity is FANTASTIC when you look at what’s happening across the pond:
Hungary’s Prime Minister said today he is resigning because of his government’s low popularity amid a worsening financial crisis.
Cabinets in London, Moscow, Beijing and Paris have been overcome by a sense of helplessness. Self-confessed workaholic Gordon Brown is trying to cope with calamity by taking constant countermeasures, while Putin sends his police officers into the street and Beijing distributes gifts to the poorest of the poor. French President Sarkozy, on the other hand, remained silent for a full seven days after the first major, large-scale demonstration.
The galloping decline in the economy has further damaged the president’s standing. Now that his approval rating has dropped to only 39 percent,
British Prime Minister Gordon Brown’s popularity is falling even faster than Sarkozy’s.
According to recent polls, the opposition Tories have further widened their lead to a comfortable 10 to 12 percent
In Russia, dismal labor statistics have driven Communists and anti-government protestors into the streets from Pskov to Volgograd in recent days, and in Moscow members of the left-wing opposition even ventured onto Red Square. They ripped up pictures of Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, until police arrested and removed them.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,606721,00.html
Now more than ever, analysts say, Japan needs a steady hand on the tiller of the economy. Instead, the government is engulfed in its own crisis, with Prime Minister Taro Aso’s popularity below 10 percent according to one poll.
Berlin – German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democrats (CDU) have slumped to their lowest popularity rating in more than two-and-a-half years, according to an opinion poll published Wednesday.
The survey, conducted by the Forsa research institute for Stern magazine and RTL television, showed the CDU on
33 per cent
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wilson | March 30, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Our Twit is running thru a SpamBot.
Was just thinking the same thing Fay, after reading Twits latest comment. It’s kinda like having GayleTed or TedGayle on the blog, after awhile, yah just zip past the comment to the real people.
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Bec | March 30, 2009 at 8:55 pm
wilson, you are much cuter…!
To the poll lovers, you only like polls when they swing your way artificially, other than that they are never published. We are pretty consistent, we know they are Bull$hit!
I find it facinating that the unwelcome visitors, have such boring content at their own sites and must visit ours.
I am getting quite a giggle out of how the big “o” lovers are spinning the auto bailout decision. Facinating spin by the fawning media.
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Ted | March 30, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Wilson:
Unfortunately for you and Harper, those Europeans ain’t voting in Canada. Too bad. He’ll need all the help he can get.
I love it how partisans immediately attack a poll as a push poll or as a partisan poll whenever it turns badly for them, as Canadian polls are now. Liberals are no different; it is just a partisan thing. Ignore what you don’t like and hopefully it will go away.
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Bec | March 30, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Ted, we are consistent, they are ALL push polls, for and against. Except the FOR,are NEVER fawned over by us.
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Ted | March 30, 2009 at 9:27 pm
No Bec. They are never ever ever fawned over. Yup. That’s fer sure. Not ever.
By the way, you may want to someday visit the Blogging Tories website. Lots of you Conservative types over there. Obviously, you’ve never been.
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MaryT | March 31, 2009 at 3:13 am
I have been polled by the three polling companies in the past several years and they ask the same question several times, in different ways, to get the answer they want. First time was the election Preston Manning was leader of the Reform party. Every question re party, PM, who will you vote for ect I said, Reform, Preston. Each time I answered I was told -sorry that answer is not one of the choices, and the guy went thru the list again. Still gave the same answer. When the results were out there were headlines, Preston Manning and Reform have no support blah blah. I called several media to report the problem and again was told, it is not our job to investigate the questions, just to report the result. I get the Angus Reid on line forum/poll monthly, and it is impossible to get thru it until every question is answered. If you didn’t answer, you get the message, please answer in order to continue. So, when a question like, do you prefer Micheal Ignatieff (sp) or Dion, no wonder they say iggy is raising in the polls.
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Ted | March 31, 2009 at 10:52 am
Except, Mary, you ignore the facts of this,/i> poll which put Harper and Ignatieff head-to-head on issues of trust and economic management and voting intentions.
And it is consistent with many other polls coming out on the same questions, most notably Nanos who is probably the most widely respected and considered the most non-partisan.
And you can see that this polling and the internal polling is not only freaking out you conservative bloggers, but also the Conservative Party.
After destroying their conservative credentials on economics, fiscal policy, deficits, spending, small government, federal-provincial balance, accountability, senate reform, etc., with more and more former Conservative conservatives actually getting organized (www.cutthefat.ca, http://www.nobailouts.ca, homelesscons.com, Nichols Loyal to the Core, etc.), the polls were showing a clear drop in Conservative support from its base. The party realized it had to do something to stop the bleeding and they couldn’t just cancel Parliament again to save their jobs.
So, no surprise, out come all of these recent and sudden socially conservative announcements. Like their tax cuts of years past, these are pretty ineffective, usually unnecessary or duplicative, or just plain very tiny changes despite the big announcements. But that is not their purpose. As Ian Brodie admitted over the weekend, good policy is not the intention of Conservative policy-making; saving their jobs is the objective. And as Coyne aptly put it, “Red meat! Get your red meat here!”
“A couple days’ worth of headlines:
- Tories ‘prepared to defend’ polygamy ban
- Toews supports new crime rate measure
- Tories want to kill ‘two-for-one’ prison-time credit
- Spike in refugee claims shows ‘abuse’ of system, Kenney says
[Ed Note: should add the many other immigration "policy" announcements from Kenney that followed this article, plus the new run at the gun registry, plus the increasing public attendance at gun functions.]
There you go, Tory base. We may be spending at all-time record levels. We may be running $40-billion deficits, and bailing out auto companies, and ditching across-the-board tax cuts in favour of dozens of little social-engineering tax credits. We may have abandoned everything we ever stood for on Afghanistan, on Quebec, on corporate welfare, on foreign investment. We may have set up a regional development agency for southern Ontario.
But we’ll still protect you from a lot of imaginary threats like polygamy. We’ll still beat up on refugees, and prisoners. We’ll still whip up hysteria over crime. Because sometimes you just have to do the unassailably popular thing, when it’s the unassailably popular thing to do.”
No, the Conservatives are not worried about their rapidly declining support. No, not at all.