We are cooling off and letting all this sink in…and it is clearer than mud already…in fact it is crystal clear
December 4, 2008
Conservative Reporter
Tags: 2009, budget, coalition, Duceppe, economy, January, Layton, leaders, Parliament, Premiers, Seniors, taxes
Bec, Commentator over at “Blue Like You” gave readers a hint that Charles Adler has Part Two up on his blog about the
Three Stooges of Coupscam — here is a sample below:
Three Stooges of Coupscam (Chapter Two)
by Charles Adler
Dec 4/08It’s hard for many of us to believe that the fate of Canada, one of the world’s great democracies, is now in the hands of a person who has never been elected to anything. But I have confidence that the Governor General will continue to respect the views of the Prime Minister and continue to maintain Canada’s tradition of having meaningful elections where the Canadian voters and votes are respected and where a change of government happens when the people vote for that change. I expect the Governor General to continue to take her prime counsel from the Prime Minister as opposed to the growing gaggle of opportunists, unionists, and academics who want to conquer the National treasury and bankrupt it.
It’s hard for us to believe that people in this country will surrender everything we own to TENURED university professors. You can read that as some of the only people in Canada with job security guaranteed.
Blogger Hat Tip to Conservatism.ca for confirming my fears, not yet expressed here, that the rest of the world is noting our dilemma and making up cartoons and comments. Source of cartoon
In Terence Corcoran’s editorial today entitled:”Why The PM Must Persist” I found a kindred spirit to get me out of my funk. After watching the Layton and Duceppe show after our Prime Minister spoke, I wandered around trying to find the words and quell my anger. It was nice to browse around and find Terence Corcoran and I repeat some of it here for you. Please read his full article here.
Into the grand fable of their attempt to take control of Ottawa, the opposition coalition and its backers have woven an imaginary tale of Tory economic negligence. They were at it again yesterday in the House of Commons and last night in Liberal leader Stephane Dion’s address to the nation, repeating claims that the Harper government’s economic plan leaves Canada’s economy sailing rudderless into an economic hurricane.
There is no substance to the Dion coalition’s alleged reasons for existence, no basis for its false claims of looming economic peril and job losses due to Conservative policy. Nor is there much truth in the media’s caricature of Stephen Harper as an arrogant strategic dolt whose monumental economic and political blunder has plunged his government, the country and the economy into a crisis.
The whole production is a page from the work of the greatest academic authority on the subject, Princeton philosopher Harry Frankfurt, author of the 2005 best-seller, On Bullshit. Liars, says Prof. Frankfurt, need to know the truth. Bullshitters, interested solely in advancing their own agenda, have no use for the truth. They just make things up to win over their audience.
Precisely Terence!
Jack Layton slags our Prime Minister at every turn. Nothing we do is good enough for him. He plays up again and again how they had to step in and take over. Canada needs them. Mr. Harper has lost the confidence of the House of Commons, he said. People are losing jobs every minute and he does nothing about it, says he. If you listen to Mr. Layton he is pure as the driven snow. He asks for meetings and gives his ideas and no one takes them. It is the same tune Mr. Duceppe sings but in a lower meter and Quebec oriented. I heard Mr. Duceppe call our Prime Minister a liar at least twice today.
Both of these men are upset that we are not throwing out money in every which way but loose to any Canadian industry or family anywhere…no target…just throw.
Apparently they’re prepared to take the ‘ready, shoot, aim” approach to spending, and agree to some blank cheques without even knowing what will actually help specific industries, without knowing what Barak Obama has planned, and without working in concert with the other G-20 countries. It is a recipe for a fiscal disaster.
IT WAS ONLY AN ECONOMIC UPDATE —–it was NOT A BUDGET —I scream to the TV screen–but Layton and Duceppe do not find it convenient to listen. They prefer to repeat how they have made suggestions and the government did not listen so now they have to act and thus the coalition.
We all know the truth though, don’t we. The idea of a coalition found a home in Crafty Jack’s mind and, opportunist and super salesman that he is, he whispered his plans to Duceppe. Somewhere along the line Dion got in on it. The election ink results were not even dry when they started planning and plotting and waiting.
None of these men have shown any integrity for Canadians to embrace their plan. They show no verbal leadership nor a willingness to work things out. They want what they want and they want it now, regardless as to whether it is the right thing to do or not. They are though very good at Course 101 entitled “How to slag those in power and get what you want”.
How do you like being duped Canada? Have you seen their ambitions showing yet?
They talk the talk and do not walk the walk. Seize the opportunity and control it. That is their motto.
I want to know what this coalition has against helping seniors?
I want to ask them why they didn’t notice all of the cash and incentives being put out to banks and money lenders so they can give Canadians what they need.
I would like to know why they could not see the vision presented to them about taxes, spending, infrastructure, deficits, economic forecasting and even about the government economizing.
That was the test, to see if the opposition could see the vision in pulling back on their entitlements. Well no they could not.
I would like to know how you can throw money at something with no target or no information at hand and expect it to bear fruit. The coalition does not have an answer to this.
I would like to know why they do not feel proud that we are the envy of the world and will not feel the pain as strongly as all others will.
Their verbal speak shows me that they say what their salesman sides want to say but the cards they carry are very close to their chests and are never to be revealed.
Have you caught them out yet Canada? Have you watched enough of their throwing their weight around and hijacking Canada to dance to their drummer?
I am glad to see that I am not the only one who sees them for what they are.
Rally For Canada is this coming Saturday, and in my city I will be in front of the legislature building at 2pm to support Canada Strong and Free. I expect I will be talking it up with those who gather. I hope they pass on their commitment to others, so they can pass it on, and so on and so on.
Wait for the budget and see for yourself the commitment it will make to Canadians. It is born out of gathering information, talking to premiers, leaders of the world, business people and members of parliament. I say MP’s in case there are some who actually give input. The bloc says they already have. Let’s hope it has content that the government can use.
Let the “cooling off period begin”.
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skuleman | December 4, 2008 at 6:07 pm
I must say that there is probably no one in Canada lower and more despicable than Jack Layton. For a moment I briefly thought of Paul Bernardo, but realized even he has more redeeming qualities than Layton.
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Brian | December 4, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Excellent article , not the usual MSM crap pandering to the Coalition
“When doesn’t ‘no’ mean ‘no’?”
Canadian electorate said ‘no’ to Dion and ‘no’ to Layton but doesn’t get a say for or against the separatist Bloc
By MARK BONOKOSKI
http://tinyurl.com/6pt3bd
http://www.torontosun.com/news/columnists/mark_bonokoski/2008/12/04/7625071-sun.html
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Gord Lepsenyi | December 4, 2008 at 7:31 pm
Folks, knock off the rhetoric. Skuleman’s comment about Layton is undoudtedly an example of the worst of Canadian intolerance and ignorance.
Some reasons for why the Governor General should have handed Canada over to the coalition today:
1. we are in a financial crisis. This is an insane time to shut down parliament while the stock market, incomes, jobs, pensions and all tank.
2. it is completely democratic to have a minority government (38% voter support) thrown out by MPs who represent 62% of the voters.
3. The Conservative Party is very dangerous to the welfare of avearge Canadians. The agenda for this party is pretty much written by the wealthiest Canadian and International elite, the Canadian Council of Chief Executives. These executives earn 7 figure salaries, many of whom averaged 13% annual pay increases while their workers averaged a 2 % increase. Look at your annual income and ask yourself why you side in with these fat cats? Do they really have your best interests at heart?
3. 27 out of 28 Conservative MPs come from Alberta where the citizens really need to give their heads a shake. Alberta is the best example of why Conservatism only works for the wealthy. While the citizens of little old Norway, since 1972, have taken responsible royalties on their oil production and amassed a $360 BILLION fund for it’s citizens, Alberta has a Heritage Fund of some measly $16 BILLION, with no increase in the last 23 years! Alberta oil royalties are a miserable $2 a barrel, down from $3 !!
4. traitors, seperatists in the coalition? Don’t be absurd. Just because one doesn’t believe in the unfettered corporate takeover of Canada, doesn’t mean one is not a good citizen. In fact, standing up for 62% of the public sure as hell is more patriotic than having a 38% elite group of corporate executives and their intolerant, social program destroying supporters run Canada as though they own it.
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potato | December 4, 2008 at 7:36 pm
It’s clear. Layton, Dion and all the Progressive MPs have stabbed Canada in the back.
Once things die down and everyone has had a chance to reflect hopefully the pieces will begin to fall into place and Canadians will see the evil duplicitousness of this cabal. Corcoran’s article shows that the economy was never the issue. They’ve been lying through their teeth right from the very beginning.
Absolutely disgusting.
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Werner Patels | December 4, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Well, it seems, according to Blue Like You, Globe and Mail, etc., that Dion is finished. His own caucus wants him gone immediately
And off to the Traitor’s Gate at the Tower of London he goes …
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DaveCF | December 4, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Gord – Give your head a shake. I am on a pension and the ghastly coalition attempt cost a 1000-point drop in the TSX. There went my RRSPs. That shoots your point No.1 down. Destruction of confidence in the markets is an NDP specialty.
No.2 So it was alright for Chretien to have government with 38% of the vote, but not the Conservatives? When have we ever had a government with more than 50% of the vote?
No.3 – The Liberal Party is tied hands and feet to PowerCorp, the NDP is in the pocket of the big unions and the Bloc is blinded by ideology. Only the Conservatives rely on the population base of “average Canadians” and are not beholden to powerful organizations.
Your Second No.3 What does “27 out of 28 Conservative MPs come from Alberta” mean? And yes, there is wealth in Alberta because the people have it – not the government. Or do you subscribe to the socialist tripe that those true believers get to hand out what is needed each to his needs?
No.4 Yup, “traitors, seperatists in the coalition” pretty well sums it up, but you left out opportunists.
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skuleman | December 4, 2008 at 8:43 pm
OK Gord, maybe a little over the top, but not by much.
There are few people who can even come close to making my blood boil as much as Layton, and that feeling goes to his time in Toronto council.
As for your other points:
1.- Any action on the economy, especially WRT the big 3, is foolish until we know what the Americans are doing. There’s still a very good chance of Chapter 11, in which case any loans we make before the Chapter 11 filing are worthless, and as late as yesterday Obama is still making noises about repatriating jobs to the US.
2.- Its true 62% of Canadians did not vote for a Harper government, but 74% did not vote for a Dion government, 82% did not vote for a Layton government and 90% did not vote for a Bloc government. Given the power of the PM in our system and the party whip system, a Dion led coalition would mean a government that at least 74% didn’t want.
3.- I have to agree with DaveCF on the questionable relationships of both the Liberals and the NDP. Given the recent history of the Liberals in power under Chretien and the financial scandals (AdScam, Gun Registry, HP, etc) as a taxpayer I’m very concerned about giving them the keys to the vault.
3b.- I’m not sure you’re up to comparing the economics of light sweet crude production costs vs oil sands production costs, but perhaps if Alberta had been pumping the same quantity & quality of oil as Norway since 1972, and given the incredible equity markets of the late 90’s, Alberta might have a similar fund now.
4.- It’s true that under Canadian law aiding and abetting someone who in any way wants to bring about the dissolution of the nation is not technically treason – but perhaps it should be.
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Conservative Reporter | December 4, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Very interesting thread…keep going
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gimbol | December 5, 2008 at 1:58 am
Hey Gordo, let me clue you into something.
If the liberals and NDP had decided to form a coalition before we had the last election they not only would have more cred, but they would had been able to do it without the Bloc….see the diff?
But just to make it real clear so you fully understand why some of us prefer to refer to the coalition as a bunch of traitors, here’s the meat.
The Bloc has only one goal, its to create the winning conditions for a referendum on Quebec separation. You do know what those are right?
But just to be clear I’ll point out the three main conditions the Separatists are working towards.
1- Having the economy go into the tank.
2- Prove Parliament is disfunctional and isn’t working.
3- Have a weak government that can be easily blackmailed.
Now you are free to debate the first two points to your hearts content, but the third would be satisfied by having a coalition lead by lame duck Dion a PM from Quebec, reliant on the support of the Bloc to remain in power.
Hell I’ll bet Dion didn’t have to offer Duceppe a single thing and Dion probably took him at his word.
Now the real challenge begins. Dion will be forced out and when that happens Harper has a defacto majority, the liberals will not want to go to the voters now, broke, leaderless, lacking a clear plan and tarred with the stigma of willing to cut a deal with separatists to gain power.
That after all was the real plan wasn’t it? Keep Harper from tabling a budget that would force another election before the liberals elect their next leader.
The liberals can’t fight an election before they replace Dion.
Its that simple. And Harper knows it.
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granny | December 22, 2008 at 12:07 am
Harper caused the crisis because he wanted to rub Liberal noses, especially Dion’s, in the fact that he was a lame duck leader waiting to be replaced. Harper thought they could do nothing to stop him, no matter what he decided to do – eg, get rid of their funding. (This idiocy in the middle of an economic crisis? Could he be any more self-centred and stupid?!)
Well … Harper didn’t read the rules very well, because in that situation a coalition is both allowed, and extremely reasonable. Harper ‘didn’t know’ that his job is only his job if he has the confidence of the House. When he found out they had another option, he started whining and crying foul. Now, how much faith can Canadians have in a leader who does not respect the Constitutional rules under which he operates? Friggen scary!
We cannot be saddled with a PM like Harper who is so intent on playing competitive personal political games that he ignores the economic crisis in progress. What Harper did is thumb his nose at Canadians and Canadian democracy. He will now face a confidence vote in the House, and it remains to be seen whether he is the one to continue in the House, because the confidence of the House is sorely shaken by his sick stunts.
Don’t the Conservatives have any better leaders to offer? This idiot is only happy playing head games, not a good quality in one who has to lead us through the current crisis … not a leadership quality at all. Such stunts are generally the prerogative of the back room kids, and a stunt like this should never have seen daylight. It’s sickening to see a ‘PM’ behave in such a juvenile fashion that his behaviour would not be allowed in – for example – a student council!
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DaveCF | December 22, 2008 at 12:28 am
Granny – Go back to your knitting. Prime Minister Harper does have the confidence of the House, as demonstrated by the passage of the throne speech. There has been no non-confidence vote. A coalition is not viable if the component parties do not have more votes than the incumbent, and since the Bloc will not be part of the government but supposedly in a support role, then they are not part of the equation. I could tear the whole of your ad hominem attacks against the PM apart but I won’t bother; just go back to your NDP ‘emergency response’ cell and emerge when next told to by your ‘political officer’. Incidentally, the PM demonstrated the confidence of the Canadian electorate, which is more than can be said for the dismal showing by the socialist/seperatist coalition parties, none of whom mustered more than 25% of the vote. You just want rid of Harper because he can run rings around the best that the Left can offer.
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Conservative Reporter | December 22, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Well thank you DaveCF for answering Granny….I could not have done it better….