There was nothing wrong with this Conservative Government….

December 1, 2008 Conservative Reporter

Tags: coalition, conservative government, Rally For Canada

Entry Filed under: canadian politics

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• 1. Mylegacy  |  December 1, 2008 at 8:32 pm

  For Canadians, the Conservatives have been wrong on almost every issue that has defined what Canadians believe in. On the questions of universal healthcare, and small “l” liberal community standards, the Tories have been swimming upstream. As a result they’ve spent 90% of so of the last century on the outside looking in. Those of us “of a certain age” remember the vicious lying fight they put up against universal health care.

  Harper has “won” two minority governments. Despite an historic Liberal collapse in Quebec he was unable to win a majority. Why? Because Canadians are not ready to hand over our “social network” to the “tender care” of the Religious Right and the Reaganite “Trickle Down, Deregulate, Government is the enemy” crowd.

  As in the USA, the “right” doesn’t want government “leaner” it wants Government “gone.” The US shows us the end game of that philosophy. Canadians know better.

  Polls always show a majority of Canadians as being “center/left.” Harper’s hatred and disrespect of the opposition may have now created the “New Liberal Democratic Party” of Canada.

  Thank you Mr. Harper, your disrespect is going to give Canadians the opportunity to elect, “Change we can believe in!”

• 2. djxtreme  |  December 1, 2008 at 8:56 pm

  Disrespect? You mean like Adscam? Like stealing power instead of getting elected? Oh, that kind of respect. No thanks.

• 3. Bob  |  December 1, 2008 at 9:18 pm

  @mylegacy: “For Canadians, the Conservatives have been wrong on almost every issue that has defined what Canadians believe in.”

  Really? Then who is voting for them? And all this time I thought it was Canadians voting for them! Glad you cleared that up! This is a democracy and people believe in different things. The Conservatives got more votes than any of the other parties… In fact, it takes THREE other parties to unite to beat them in numbes… You can’t pretend only Liberals are Canadian, that wouldn’t be very Canadian of you… Remember, Canada celebrates diversity (not just racial, but all types including political) doesn’t it? Or should we all vote Liberal and have a dictator? Or maybe we should all be Liberal because you say so? Canada isn’t a nation full of people that belong to just one political ideology… Get over it, this is a Democracy, not a dictatorship.

  “The US shows us the end game of that philosophy.”

  The only thing the US has shown us is that socialism/liberalism isn’t working. They continue to add taxes over the last century – not get rid of them – and they have continued to dig themselves into a bigger financial mess with debt while sending jobs elsewhere. Even the Republican party has not got rid of government, but made it larger and increased entitlement and socail programs, not decreased them… increased debts, etc, etc, etc. Do some research before you blame the wrong ideology for failing. Ignorance is dangerous. Just because the main stream media says the Republican Party is conservative doesn’t necessarily make it so – on some issues they are – but economically and financially they haven’t been… To be fair, our Conservatives have been very Liberal with the spending of money and increasing governments size as well…

  “Polls always show a majority of Canadians as being “center/left.” Harper’s hatred and disrespect of the opposition may have now created the “New Liberal Democratic Party” of Canada.”

  Polls, like the voting polls, have shown more Canadians vote for Conservatives than any other single party in Canada! How you gloss over that fact. Hate to say it, but most of us have known for a long time that the NDP is pretty much just a sub-section of liberal ideology (just a little more extreme). A vote for the Liberals or a vote for NDP – it’s all the same and they’ve been in bed with eachother for quite some time and they share the same basic ideology. They have worked together very well over the years.

  What most of us have known for a long time is this – There are only three real parties in Canada… The Conservatives, the Liberals (including the subparties – NDP & Green), and the BQ.

  “Thank you Mr. Harper, your disrespect is going to give Canadians the opportunity to elect, “Change we can believe in!””

  Change? We will spend more money we don’t have, enlarge entitlement programs and pretend government can save the populace from economics. The opposition is bringing down teh conservatives and saying that it is a lack of economic stimulus… the Conservatives are waiting to see what the USA, which brought the world into this mess, plans on doing, before pledging some arbitrary dollar sum to industries without actually fixing anything. Will giving money to logging or automanufacturing fix the problem of less homes being built in the USA or less vehicles being purchased in the USA, which means our companies aren’t busy? Shouldn’t we wait and see what the big plans coming down the pike in the USA are before rushing to waste our money on a failed plan? 80% of products are exported to the states… it is the USA that is having the major problems… we’re just along for the ride and we must first find out what the USA plans on doing before throwing money. I think we can wait a month or two to see what O’s plans are before rushing to some conclusion about how to fix things in the USA.

  Another failure of yours is to mention the fact that Dion will push through his massive wealth redistribution program to take money from Western provinces that have been fiscally conservative (even if hard times, where they cut spending). In hard times, the West cuts back on spending and toughes it out – because the West never get’s handouts from Federal government. We closed hospitals and cut back on road spending programs to balance the budget in hard times – while Ontario and Quebec did nothing but spend, spend, spend and get into debt which more of the tax money must go to service the interest on. Now that oil is up high and the West is doing well and debt free, the rest of Canada wants some money from it… But the West has to increase spending to build hospitals that were closed and spend on roads… Sure, we may be debt free because we were fiscally conservative (smart!) – but we’d like to keep it that way and start using OUR surplusses to build OUR OWN infrastructure. We don’t want some political dictators 3,000 miles away taking OUR money or hurting OUR economy. Period. We need OUR money to stay in the West and fix our own issues.

  Do you not remember what Truduea did? He fingered us as he got on his plane… Then he ruined our economy and almost bankrupt most of us. You probably wouldn’t remember, because as you were getting bailed out by Federal government, the REST of Canada got nothing but his middle finger to look at… The Liberals haven’t included all of Canada… In fact, they’ve done a horrible job of it and that is why they are losing power and now must get in bed with the BQ to do anything.

  Oh, and the stimulus the Liberals are throwing around is a $30 B economic stimulus plan for Quebec and Ontario but leaves most of the rest of the country out of it… How Canadian? Oh, and they forget to mention the $50 B in tax cuts (most of which goes to the middle class Canadians EVERYWHERE) that was pledged by the Conservatives is being undone. If you do the math, they are taking away $50 B in tax cuts for all and handing out $30 B in stimulus to those they choose… That’s still $20 B less than the Conservatives were going to give in economic stimulus. That’s less money floating around the economy, not more.

• 4. Roy Elsworth  |  December 1, 2008 at 9:43 pm

  call an election so we can get an majority conservative government this is rediculus. I hate ndp with a passion and now I hate liberals for doing this. we may as well go to russia or cuba I guess cause that is what is happening. and god I hope we don.t have the coalition. I see this a a poor losers. I personally don’t want the auto sectors to have my money. let them go broke. maybe they will learn something from this. like make smaller cars morons when the gas prices go up make smaller cars not gas guzzlers. like suv. I just can’t beleive the stupidity they have endured. our logging is more important then automobiles are we can get imported auto mobiles like mine but the logging is dying in Canada soft wood lumber is way more important then some dumb cars. the auto companys brought this on them selves.

• 5. Conservative Reporter  |  December 1, 2008 at 10:45 pm

  I am so glad I came back upstairs to look to see if I had any replies. They are very knowledgeable replies and I thank you Roy, Bob and djxtreme…

  Mylegacy I do not share your views and marvel at how you came by them…but thanks for dropping by.

• 6. JC Kelan  |  December 2, 2008 at 12:14 am

  From the preamble of the Accord:

  “a belief in the role of Government to act as a partner with Canadians and Quebecers.”

  They have already partitioned the country! This is the first government ever to have agreed to such a thing. Woe, Canada!

• 7. HM  |  December 2, 2008 at 12:25 am

  Is the arrogance that is bringing down the conservatives. Canadians were expecting a calm and focused economic program to lead Canadians go through the world financial crisis. Instead, we witnessed an arrogant and vengeful group of brats that should learn from their mistakes. I used to vote conservative before, but what an spectacle they have shown over the last few weeks.

• 8. Soccermom  |  December 2, 2008 at 1:42 am

  Mylegacy worships at the alter of the Obamassiah. In other words, brain-dead and nearly comatose.

• 9. Markus  |  December 4, 2008 at 12:13 am

  ‘Polls, like the voting polls, have shown more Canadians vote for Conservatives than any other single party in Canada! How you gloss over that fact.”

  Bob,
  Take a breath and calm down, try to get a little more perspective on this.
  The rhetoric being thrown around by some Conservative supporters like yourself borders on insanity – do you believe half of the thing you are saying or are you just so terrified of the party losing power that you feel the need to go off the deep end.
  Yes the conservative got the most votes of any party. But they benefit from the anti-tory vote being split several ways. The CPC DOES NOT REPRESENT A MAJORITY OF CANADIANS, (even at a time when the Liberals were largely discredited by Adscam). They should not govern like they do. They need to work with the other members of Parliament who were also elected by Canadians. If they can’t, or rather if their leadership cannot, they need to be replaced.
  I personally would rather see the Conservative Party remain in power, but there is no way they should be able to continue with Harper/Flaherty in control. They need to have Harper and Flaherty resign and replace them with a moderate/cooperative leader, who can command the confidence of the HOuse. And that very well may be another Albertan. But they cannot continue with Harper/Flaherty.

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